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  1. Dennis
    12 September 2007 @ 8:13 am

    Great little post, Jim. So true…living in and ministering in a city requires different perspectives. Thanks for pointing this out.

  2. Joel
    15 September 2007 @ 1:19 pm

    Hi Jim, we agree that the city needs to be the focus of missions in this age of urban growth. You made some good points. Maybe it is semantics but I think that churches do still need to focus on “community outreach”- not just geographical community but rather looking with neighborhood and within neighborhoods at what makes them a community. Bryant Meyers talks about this some in _Walking With The Poor_. Broken community and relationship are the roots of many problems that we face in Mexico City. Let’s keep thinking about it and asking God to give us wisdom.

  3. Jim
    15 September 2007 @ 1:27 pm

    Thanks for your comments!

    I don’t think it’s just semantics, Joel – I think we’re both right. 🙂 I’ve been thinking about writing a post just on that topic, because really it deserves more than a sentence or two.

    I agree that we shouldn’t give up on community outreach. In fact, that may be the only way we can reach some people who are isolated from any community.

    But I don’t think we should limit ourselves to just community outreach, especially in the city. If we do, I think we’re ignoring the reality of communities in today’s world.

    There are often things that bind together geographical communities – we need to understand that. But I also think that many of those people are much more connected to non-geographical communities. I think we need to work with those natural networks when we can.

  4. Joel
    17 September 2007 @ 3:46 pm

    Hmmm. I still think that our use of the word “community” may be confusing in this discussion. We seem to be on the same page but in the last paragraph of your response, you used the words communities and networks to mean the same thing. That’s what I’m saying- “community outreach” means so much more than just a geographical grouping. We must look for the ways that people connect to others- work, school, kids, soccer, carnitas, etc. and build community around those things which then gives people a reason to better their neighborhoods and their lives. And we have a great Resource for that transformation.

  5. Jim
    17 September 2007 @ 5:35 pm

    Well, I guess we agree then! 🙂 What I was trying to say was that many churches are stuck on focusing on the local neighbourhood. Geographical. I just think we need to think outside the box a bit.

    Of course, I’m really still including geography – I’m not talking necessarily about setting up a worldwide internet church for jugglers, for example. But I do think that in today’s cities you can’t focus on only reaching out to the immediate geographical area you’re in. We need to think more creatively.

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